The Effective Statistician - in association with PSI

The Effective Statistician - in association with PSI

The Effective Statistician - in association with PSI

External control arms - how to get to a good one

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Why Listen

✔ You want a clearer understanding of when and why ECAs make sense.

✔ You’re dealing with real-world data and need a practical framework for selecting the right source.

✔ You’ve heard the term target trial emulation, but want to understand how it’s applied in real projects.

✔ You want to strengthen the causal credibility of your studies without relying solely on randomized trials.

✔ You want simple, actionable principles for handling confounding and unmeasured bias.

Episode Highlights:

[00:00] – Setting the stage
I introduce the topic of external control arms and why they’re more widely relevant than many statisticians think.

[01:35] – Introducing Deepa
Deepa shares her path from social epidemiology into designing and supporting ECA studies at Cytel.

[03:00] – Why ECAs are fascinating
We talk about how methods used to study policies without RCTs translate into clinical research.

[04:00] – Where ECAs show up
I walk through common scenarios—from rare diseases to extension studies—where external controls add value.

[07:30] – Choosing the right real-world data
Deepa explains how she approaches data selection depending on disease, outcomes, and feasibility.

[10:20] – Target trial emulation
We discuss how designing the “ideal RCT” guides everything that follows when constructing an ECA.

[16:30] – Handling confounding
Deepa explains the role of expert knowledge, DAGs, and standard adjustment approaches.

[21:20] – Thinking about unmeasured confounding
We talk about assessing robustness and understanding how much bias it would take to overturn your results.

[24:20] – Final takeaways
Deepa highlights the importance of focusing on the big causal question and overall robustness—not perfection.

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🔗 My New Book: How to Be an Effective Statistician - Volume 1 – It’s packed with insights to help statisticians, data scientists, and quantitative professionals excel as leaders, collaborators, and change-makers in healthcare and medicine.

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**Episode Highlights: ** [00:00] – Setting the stage I introduce the topic of external control arms and why they’re more widely relevant than many statisticians think.

[01:35] – Introducing Deepa Deepa shares her path from social epidemiology into designing and supporting ECA studies at Cytel.

[03:00] – Why ECAs are fascinating We talk about how methods used to study policies without RCTs translate into clinical research.

[04:00] – Where ECAs show up I walk through common scenarios—from rare diseases to extension studies—where external controls add value.

[07:30] – Choosing the right real-world data Deepa explains how she approaches data selection depending on disease, outcomes, and feasibility.

[10:20] – Target trial emulation We discuss how designing the “ideal RCT” guides everything that follows when constructing an ECA.

[16:30] – Handling confounding Deepa explains the role of expert knowledge, DAGs, and standard adjustment approaches.

[21:20] – Thinking about unmeasured confounding We talk about assessing robustness and understanding how much bias it would take to overturn your results.

[24:20] – Final takeaways


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The podcast from statisticians for statisticians to have a bigger impact at work. This podcast is set up in association with PSI - Promoting Statistical Insight. This podcast helps you to grow your leadership skills, learn about ongoing discussions in the scientific community, build you knowledge about the health sector and be more efficient at work. This podcast helps statisticians at all levels with and without management experience. It is targeted towards the health, but lots of topics will be important for the wider data scientists community.

by Alexander Schacht and Benjamin Piske, biometricians, statisticians and leaders in the pharma industry

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